Observe the comments under that post at Lenin's Tomb.
Observe lenin's helplessness. Observe his huffiness. Observe his increasingly incoherent rage. Observe his bloviating, de haut en bas (but not from a very great height). Observe how he resorts to playground namecalling. Observe how he evades and evades and evades. Observe how little support he gets, even from the regulars. Observe how he welcomes the foul-mouthed adulation of his notoriously stupid Pet Troll, one 'Patrick', aka a thousand imbecilic pseudonyms.
Observe what lenin eventually presents as his reply (finally, finally, at long last...) to the very simplest of questions:
Where is the evidence that 'Al Qaeda' dunnit? ('It' being The Crime That Made Us All Americans.)
His reluctant and belated response is utterly inexcusable. Here, for example, is the fifth piece of 'evidence' he adduces:
"Number five is the evidence presented in the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, from KSM himself. This evidence cleared Moussaoui (precisely as bin Laden would later do in a video address), but it did acknowledge an AQ plot and identify a number of actors in it."
"Evidence"? Is lenin joking? This is how Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - if he is indeed even in American custody - came to give that "evidence". And Moussaoui's 'trial' was (is) one of the most shameful legal travesties to have taken place in Germany in the last 61 years.
What's really sickening is that lenin knows all this perfectly well. He certainly knows about KSM's 'waterboarding', because I told him all about it quite recently. But perhaps lenin has succeeding in forgetting. (It wouldn't be for want of trying.) At any rate, lenin is not the only person in the world who has to be tortured before he will cough up any 'evidence'.
And who extracted that 'evidence'? And how much is that 'evidence' worth?
These are lenin's trusted sources.
- I will complete this post tomorrow. It is nearly 2:00 a.m. here and I have to be up in five hours; so for now I'll leave it to others to point out the other egregious logical and factual errors in lenin's ignominious screed. It is, naturally, entirely unlinked. To put it politely: lenin got his 'evidence' from the White House, via the Guardian and the telly. In plain English: he is pulling that 'evidence' out of his arse. Five years on, there is simply no excuse for it.
Lenin's Tomb badly needs airing. The stench it emits is the stench of chronic dishonesty, wilful ignorance and profound moral cowardice. It is also the sweet stink of too many corpses to count.
A safety copy of lenin's entire response.
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A poster called 'Tuppenceworth' writes:
"I'm also waiting for the evidence that Al Qaeda dunnit, and dunnit without the help of (or being the agency of) the CIA and their paymasters."
Lenin's response:
Well, we have a number of good reasons for thinking Al Qaeda 'dunnit'.
Number one is their repeated assertion of guilt, explanation of motive and threats to repeat such attacks.
Number two is the Passenger Manifests, identifying that the alleged attackers were on board.
Number three is the identifications from flight attendants calling the American Airlines reservation desk and the flight services manager at Logan Airport, and the flight attendant who called her mother when flight 77 was being taken, and the call from Barbara Olson stating that box-cutters had been used to take the flight, and the advance travel desk in Totowa who sold Hani Hanjour and Majed Moqed their tickets, and Jeremy Glick who called his wife during the taking of flight 93 and gave a description.
Number four is the evidence that the attackers had been involved with Al Qaeda cells, such as that provided by Able Danger and various intelligence reports. There is also the emergence of what appears to be a video will by Mohammed Atta and Ziad Jarrah.
Number five is the evidence presented in the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, from KSM himself. This evidence cleared Moussaoui (precisely as bin Laden would later do in a video address), but it did acknowledge an AQ plot and identify a number of actors in it.
I mean, this is some material to start with. There is an abundance of material available on this, but it seems to me that if AQ are deeming themselves to be responsible, then we have to take very seriously the proposition that they are in fact responsible.
The issue of whether they did so alongside the CIA or with the tacit or explicit approval of the latter is not unrelated, but we need first to be clear about the reasons why one might also infer CIA responsibility. It isn't good enough to say they had worked with AQ in the past. Various US bodies have worked with a lot of people in the past through a lot of channels for a lot of short and long term goals, but these have proved capable of acting independently and according to interests of their own.
TuppenceWorth, the only good evidence available is that AQ 'dunnit'. There are no other suspects to whom evidence accrues so readily.
lenin | Homepage | 24 Nov, 00:10 | #
Fies und fieser: "There is also the emergence of what appears to be a video will by Mohammed Atta and Ziad Jarrah."
'What appears to be.' Right. Here's that 'evidence' (which 'emerged'):
http://qlipoth.blogspot.com/2006/10/silent-comedy.html
- More on lenin's tomfoolery tomorrow.
"To put it politely: lenin got his 'evidence' from the White House, via the Guardian and the telly. In plain English: he is pulling that 'evidence' out of his arse. Five years on, there is simply no excuse for it."
ReplyDeletefor real that is my entire problem with his blog's attitude towards this nebulous organization known as Al Qa'eda. and it is disappointing to see the verbal thuggery lenin allows against people who wish to be a little skeptical of what information is fed the masses by the 'authorities'.
Abbas, very belatedly, I am coming to realise what a dishonest and opportunistic little man 'lenin' now actually is. He has become so repulsive because he is running scared, and because he has just been caught out in a massive confidence-trick. Ego-defences a-crumbling. (It's really worth reading that thread in full - if he doesn't selectively delete his own comments.)
ReplyDeleteAlexander Cockburn is going through the same kind of distress:
http://qlipoth.blogspot.com/2006/09/suffering-cockburn-911-and-lefts.html
The shit they spout about 9/11 now convinces no-one with a brain in his head, and they know it. Their vanity is at stake, hence their intense viciousness.